WEBVTT 00:00:01.380 --> 00:00:03.960 OK the webcast has begun Chair thank you very much 00:00:04.720 --> 00:00:09.190 OK putting that Councillor I trot chairs that he sincerely share to 00:00:09.190 --> 00:00:12.730 commit see and I've chaired makes in tonight's under the 14th of 00:00:12.730 --> 00:00:19.840 December 20 20 so Hussey agenda first item is the minutes of the 00:00:19.840 --> 00:00:23.470 previous meeting to approve moves acquirer caught hold of the minutes 00:00:23.470 --> 00:00:28.900 the means now on 9th November 20 currency beside other the problem to 00:00:28.900 --> 00:00:34.240 the Minister at all now how Kate so take agree with though should be 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:36.370 side thanks very much 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:43.100 second item declarations been trust council officers to their an 00:00:43.100 --> 00:00:46.670 interest which they have an and the items on the agendas for the 00:00:46.670 --> 00:00:50.990 meeting so deadly her Members or officers of the interests and me 00:00:50.990 --> 00:00:58.640 since her Councillor Foster thank you Chair my decoration is in 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:05.120 relation to agenda item for community engagement 5 Ward but ability 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:10.310 funding support the Garrick theatre Ltd a family friend is actually 00:01:10.310 --> 00:01:15.560 the Treasurer of or the organisation and as such I will not 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:22.250 participate in the the debate I'll case outcome some an item euler her 00:01:22.520 --> 00:01:25.880 had between himself from the meeting that's fine I know the deftness 00:01:25.880 --> 00:01:26.870 to interest anyone 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:33.210 how can a free urgent decisions are not being made anywhere of the 00:01:33.210 --> 00:01:41.100 urgent sessions so there are non are for Katie casements who sat as 00:01:41.100 --> 00:01:45.690 Chair announcements I not to then asked us about meeting a couple in 00:01:45.690 --> 00:01:52.260 nice and sharp day with Americans those salt blank onesie I support to 00:01:52.740 --> 00:01:56.940 what he thought questions utterly ever question from the Reverend Gary 00:01:56.940 --> 00:02:00.810 Lawson how wonder if charts could be dot the question 00:02:03.100 --> 00:02:06.460 thank you Chair yes we've got one question that's been submitted by 00:02:06.460 --> 00:02:10.780 Reverend Gary Lawson and we do have a draft response that's been 00:02:10.780 --> 00:02:16.420 provided arm via Council agrarian so and the officer team the question 00:02:16.420 --> 00:02:21.400 is the changing rooms in the recreation ground which borders white 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:25.900 Hill Street and South Reddish I know very poor condition and there any 00:02:25.900 --> 00:02:30.970 plans to refurbish them if so what works are proposed and when are 00:02:30.970 --> 00:02:35.440 they scheduled to start would you like me to read the draft response 00:02:35.440 --> 00:02:39.760 chill consul Aquarians Oby doing this I think Council 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:46.220 Tainos happy to read that Councillor Kent Councillor all their days 00:02:46.220 --> 00:02:49.940 out if you want you yes yes me with the UK 00:02:51.210 --> 00:02:51.750 thank you 00:02:52.330 --> 00:02:57.400 so the responses are there are no current agreed plans to carry out 00:02:57.430 --> 00:03:01.210 any refurbishment works to the facilities on site at White Hill 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:05.740 colleagues in estates carried out a survey across the green space 00:03:05.740 --> 00:03:10.540 building portfolio prior to lock down and essential health and safety 00:03:10.540 --> 00:03:12.730 works that were identified were actioned 00:03:13.700 --> 00:03:18.410 but it is recognised that the facilities on site at Whitehill are aged 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:22.070 as is the case with a number of our changing room facilities across 00:03:22.070 --> 00:03:28.190 the borough is important to note that due to current guidance around 00:03:28.190 --> 00:03:34.460 COVID-19 access to facilities during permitted sporting activities is 00:03:34.460 --> 00:03:40.220 for hand washing and toilet facilities only on a one in and one out 00:03:40.250 --> 00:03:41.150 basis 00:03:41.550 --> 00:03:47.400 and changing roles should not be being used the Playing Pitch Strategy 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:51.330 football cricket lacrosse rugby and hockey and local football 00:03:51.330 --> 00:03:56.040 facilities plan were both were both completed and officially adopted 00:03:56.040 --> 00:04:00.150 at the end of last year a number of borough wide priorities were 00:04:00.150 --> 00:04:04.500 identified across the five sports and discussions had commenced with 00:04:04.530 --> 00:04:09.150 key partners national giving book governing bodies of the five sports 00:04:09.390 --> 00:04:12.180 and the Football Foundation Briatore lockdown 00:04:13.180 --> 00:04:17.530 unfortunately these discussions have stalled somewhat and is hoped 00:04:17.530 --> 00:04:19.510 that these pick up in the near future 00:04:20.930 --> 00:04:25.040 funding to deliver all of the other identified projects is going to be 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:29.690 challenging and it's hoped that the priority projects will attract 00:04:29.690 --> 00:04:31.100 external funding 00:04:35.100 --> 00:04:39.720 I thank my son of leave a copy of that response will be sent to the 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:44.130 person reading question snarl at plus print out with that girl grey 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:45.030 thanks very much 00:04:45.970 --> 00:04:51.040 OK on site and freak positions before the right no petitions and Steve 00:04:51.310 --> 00:04:55.900 for this may think aren't the next iSave open forum of informed there 00:04:55.900 --> 00:05:00.340 are no items for open for this makes it so without going to war 00:05:00.340 --> 00:05:05.230 flaccid us he fought on Ding support Garrett fears limited honourably 00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:09.780 Councillor Fossa sewer germ for the sub 0 Councillor Sedgwick 00:05:10.450 --> 00:05:11.380 did you want to speak 00:05:14.330 --> 00:05:21.470 the area yet are not yet fixed here I'm yet why all I'm time so I 00:05:21.470 --> 00:05:28.640 foster yeah and I would sit near some spot it I'm fine with it but the 00:05:28.640 --> 00:05:33.740 one thing I'm not sure this the calculation based the for Dearne it by 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:40.370 a post called Cowan because forgives me colleagues from Heaton South 00:05:40.370 --> 00:05:46.640 but as as I were Qatar you know it wouldn't be fair to I ask the 00:05:46.640 --> 00:05:51.620 reddish counsellors to stump up more because S K 5 as an one of a 00:05:51.620 --> 00:05:56.630 higher usage but also at the same time areas of esky to which 00:05:56.630 --> 00:06:01.190 represent the second high stayed it her eyes poor score daily of usage 00:06:02.210 --> 00:06:06.560 the wards are not area are being asked for as much so I was just 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:11.390 wondered if there was any insight to Hove of came of as calculation 00:06:13.500 --> 00:06:18.030 I can't really stretches to Watson the application with yeah you as I 00:06:18.030 --> 00:06:25.500 say at least confine his by particle fairy 20 20 I do I sit to 00:06:25.740 --> 00:06:29.820 resource anomaly at higher stray such two Chairs speak to this one 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.160 Councillor bookmark the fields come in 00:06:34.930 --> 00:06:39.520 thanks Chair and I wanted to make more or less the same point about 00:06:39.520 --> 00:06:47.380 the date that the wildly sort of differing asks per ward and an 00:06:47.620 --> 00:06:56.260 injustice to to add that the Garrick theatre it's it's it's inform 00:06:56.260 --> 00:07:00.940 centre that doesn't mean that I think the town centre wards should be 00:07:00.940 --> 00:07:06.100 looking after it more than and anybody else but I think it's it it's a 00:07:06.100 --> 00:07:14.770 borough wide resource on I think we put all benefit from it equally 00:07:15.790 --> 00:07:21.880 and like Councillor Sedgwick I at I think I would like a little bit 00:07:21.880 --> 00:07:28.690 more explanation of the thinking behind it beyond just been a post 00:07:28.690 --> 00:07:35.230 code analysis thank you carrier take no surprise out of the Council's 00:07:35.230 --> 00:07:36.460 was speak on this 00:07:38.660 --> 00:07:40.250 Councillor John totally us 00:07:44.520 --> 00:07:49.890 the thank Thatcher my impression is that the applicant has been guided 00:07:49.890 --> 00:07:54.090 by her the Council's own materials to 00:07:55.330 --> 00:07:59.680 supply the evidence that they have in terms of their knowledge of 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:04.750 where their customers are now I'm sure that the the way that that's 00:08:04.750 --> 00:08:09.580 presented could be varied but but but they made the basic effort and I 00:08:09.580 --> 00:08:16.690 believe the basic stats which show that a SK 4 is particularly rich in 00:08:16.690 --> 00:08:21.460 people patronising the the Garrick I think what it what it doesn't do 00:08:21.460 --> 00:08:25.600 is to sort of go even further but we never expect this of other people 00:08:26.350 --> 00:08:33.460 go even further in in terms of saying what is the frequency as opposed 00:08:33.460 --> 00:08:40.810 to just who's on the books having ever been and you know the one thing 00:08:40.810 --> 00:08:41.050 that 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:49.530 does impact when we vote for things here in in the this area committee 00:08:49.530 --> 00:08:53.610 and in other Area Committees is that it it has a knock on influence 00:08:54.180 --> 00:08:59.400 about the way that the airport trust-fund divvies out its own money 00:08:59.550 --> 00:09:03.840 and what the airport trusts from light to do is to cope partner and 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:09.390 therefore if we put in what we're asphalt that will assist a 00:09:09.390 --> 00:09:12.540 subsequent and it that this is one particular measure that that didn't 00:09:12.540 --> 00:09:17.430 get a space that currently completely dead moving forward but 00:09:17.430 --> 00:09:21.180 obviously you can see from their report they've got much wider 00:09:21.900 --> 00:09:26.070 strategy and they've got a pressing need because they've obviously 00:09:26.070 --> 00:09:32.580 entered into a contract which ideally not only could be met by the 00:09:32.580 --> 00:09:39.540 sort of applications that that got in at the moment but but also start 00:09:39.540 --> 00:09:45.450 to produce work at a greater volume than are likely to be able to do 00:09:45.450 --> 00:09:50.100 when things start to normalise so overall I think it's a very good 00:09:50.100 --> 00:09:53.730 application I think it's carefully thought through and I will be 00:09:53.730 --> 00:09:59.640 minded to support it chaos Councillor fits pastures speak acts the 00:09:59.640 --> 00:09:59.940 thick 00:10:01.990 --> 00:10:05.880 thank you Chair I think yet again we come to that question affirm what 00:10:05.880 --> 00:10:09.330 should we be funding through this committee and how much should we 00:10:09.330 --> 00:10:14.640 fund it by are thing if we were to follow the guidance down I think 00:10:14.640 --> 00:10:18.780 this probably stretches the boundaries a little bit however we 00:10:18.780 --> 00:10:22.200 probably have done that many times in the past and I think there were 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:27.600 more than alone do that I think for me the principle is should we be 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:32.160 pulled in this type of application for a fair to that maybe could 00:10:32.160 --> 00:10:36.870 access funds from other sources it would comfortable with you in that 00:10:37.290 --> 00:10:41.430 and we comfortable with the amount for a 2 thousand 350 00:10:41.950 --> 00:10:46.120 and a thousand from this committee and the ability to deliver this 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:51.490 project they somewhat hinged on or the very committed and other wards 00:10:51.490 --> 00:10:55.930 in particular funding this another when we know that certain area 00:10:55.930 --> 00:11:00.340 committed do not consider the lanky applications across the borough 00:11:00.340 --> 00:11:04.180 they will automatically reject from if we are happy with those 00:11:04.180 --> 00:11:10.030 principles as a committee then given the tight circumstances very 00:11:10.030 --> 00:11:14.200 difficult circumstance of seem a numbers that contrasts K 4 and so on 00:11:14.470 --> 00:11:15.550 then I personally would 00:11:16.430 --> 00:11:20.330 allow it to go through but I do think we still need to add an area 00:11:20.330 --> 00:11:22.040 committed of that conversation 00:11:24.570 --> 00:11:29.010 OK out of Councillor wryness nurse and Councillor can't see enough of 00:11:29.010 --> 00:11:32.880 it had to from his dishes one of which are we principal wanting to 00:11:32.880 --> 00:11:38.130 support affection and secondly it's the how we hellish before the 00:11:38.130 --> 00:11:43.080 whether it's on the faith technical off relatively apricot or Ward 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:47.970 enough Ottilie tenable other adequate his mate like this week so now 00:11:47.970 --> 00:11:50.970 the supporting mind Councillor Ryan assure next 00:11:58.480 --> 00:11:59.230 can't hear 00:12:02.540 --> 00:12:07.130 sorry I have to apologise I just joined the meeting I I got very held 00:12:07.130 --> 00:12:12.320 up and then I now gone one sorry about that and I'm just struggling to 00:12:12.350 --> 00:12:14.360 find by you are so please bear with me 00:12:18.180 --> 00:12:22.050 if you if you just want if you just want to move on when ID that ought 00:12:22.050 --> 00:12:27.030 to do your bit of kit patient surfy yet because they first I could 00:12:27.030 --> 00:12:33.390 serve just goats Councillor concede on an about few OK OK thank you 00:12:34.980 --> 00:12:39.150 yes I was a bit surprised when I saw the different amounts because on 00:12:39.150 --> 00:12:43.320 the face of it you'd expect to Bramhall and Cheadle hue and so forth 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:47.250 to be greater there to go as I think than the sun the areas 00:12:47.650 --> 00:12:54.010 but they do have their own amateur dear to as well so maybe that's why 00:12:55.690 --> 00:13:00.580 the theatre and arts industries generally have been extremely hardly 00:13:00.670 --> 00:13:07.390 hardly hit by the Kobe restrictions and I think were in danger of 00:13:07.390 --> 00:13:12.430 losing vast numbers over artistic and theatrical ventures of they 00:13:12.430 --> 00:13:16.450 don't support them in his in-out greatest hour of need which is now 00:13:17.920 --> 00:13:21.940 looking at the amounts are thinker in Reddish weaken of what Wick 00:13:21.940 --> 00:13:26.230 budget as we can afford 250 pounds we have not enormous calls on money 00:13:26.230 --> 00:13:29.170 this year probably because of Clough that again 00:13:29.690 --> 00:13:32.930 so I'd be happy to go along with it because I think they need all the 00:13:32.930 --> 00:13:33.890 support they can get 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:38.970 Matthew count surrounding us 00:13:43.210 --> 00:13:47.260 thank you very much yes I was I was surprised also to see the 00:13:47.260 --> 00:13:51.010 different amount I understood there was an appendix to the report I'm 00:13:51.010 --> 00:13:54.550 took company at which would break down 00:13:55.160 --> 00:13:59.210 where some theatregoers and participants come from by area which I 00:13:59.210 --> 00:14:04.070 thought would would help to shed some light on the different amount 00:14:04.100 --> 00:14:07.130 and I couldn't find that Appendix I don't know if I miss debt or 00:14:07.220 --> 00:14:13.940 hadn't been included that's the first point the second point is I you 00:14:13.940 --> 00:14:19.940 know I agree with what Councillor Barrientos said about about the art 00:14:19.970 --> 00:14:23.690 I think they're really really important and I will just say several 00:14:23.690 --> 00:14:27.620 years ago when I was first a school governor is by 15 years ago 00:14:28.790 --> 00:14:32.690 governor of a school in London which had been failing really terribly 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.260 and it was reopened as a specialist arts and media School 00:14:36.900 --> 00:14:42.930 and I saw how having a creative outlet focus on really focused 00:14:42.930 --> 00:14:49.440 students attentions in a way that the that that the that that the that 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:52.980 the arts were not as an end in itself but actually they helped to 00:14:52.980 --> 00:14:56.160 promote self efficacy and this kind of belief that they could do 00:14:56.160 --> 00:14:59.370 anything which really they were able to apply to their own work and 00:14:59.370 --> 00:15:02.430 informed my own Education of loss Sophie so deeply that I actually 00:15:02.430 --> 00:15:07.590 ended up retraining as a teacher so I do you know so I do absolutely 00:15:07.680 --> 00:15:11.040 support initiatives like this and and I think that they would benefit 00:15:11.040 --> 00:15:15.390 from hats working with schools unfortunately budgets have been cut so 00:15:15.690 --> 00:15:21.150 severely in in schools that this is now not offered to students 00:15:21.150 --> 00:15:26.130 routinely am I think that if there were a way of confusing using this 00:15:26.130 --> 00:15:29.640 place to to to promote that that would be really really beneficial 00:15:30.030 --> 00:15:30.750 community 00:15:34.300 --> 00:15:39.370 of the problem night or sooner should handle sorry tree was a go 00:15:39.370 --> 00:15:43.840 Councillor Tom McGee waiting on sorry Councillor sonically side of 00:15:43.870 --> 00:15:48.610 photography galleries castigate new per cent out of all of what it is 00:15:50.060 --> 00:15:50.780 coulson again 00:15:55.500 --> 00:15:57.510 your MCC was muted Councillor McGee 00:16:02.170 --> 00:16:06.460 a press the hand thinking it was the speaking thing sorry so I think 00:16:06.460 --> 00:16:11.560 we have to recognise that term there is no longer a central fund for 00:16:11.770 --> 00:16:15.850 cross Stop or projects and hasn't been for a number years and that's 00:16:15.850 --> 00:16:20.680 possibly because that not everybody wants to contact you contribute to 00:16:20.680 --> 00:16:27.250 those other activities so there are a number of her a theatre groups 00:16:27.340 --> 00:16:33.190 around the Rodley and bramble and and the Garrick I think they 00:16:33.190 --> 00:16:38.380 probably suffered from major income loss during the course of the year 00:16:39.020 --> 00:16:43.130 they are committed as you can see from the papers to work to a project 00:16:43.130 --> 00:16:47.810 to try and improve them and the one the one is do I think that they 00:16:47.900 --> 00:16:51.710 bear pace long term and I don't know how we address this is the 00:16:51.710 --> 00:16:56.960 Disability access issue but I think I think given that we've been 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:01.430 asked for relatively modest amounts to try and keep something you know 00:17:01.430 --> 00:17:07.940 something together that provides to those who are the take part or go 00:17:07.940 --> 00:17:12.920 regularly a great you a great deal of firm of the I'll just pleasure 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:16.490 but said everything care fulfilment in many cases I think it's 00:17:16.490 --> 00:17:21.230 probably worth says supporting what more we've been asked to support 00:17:21.320 --> 00:17:24.770 whether others of course will remain to be seen and what that has an 00:17:24.770 --> 00:17:30.770 impact on then I am whether they can deliver a that's also a problem I 00:17:30.770 --> 00:17:34.850 think that that they have to pay will be rather than us thank you 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:37.320 can Councillor Butler 00:17:40.060 --> 00:17:42.280 thank you Chairman and two 00:17:43.460 --> 00:17:49.610 following on from my previous comments I are are are don't have any 00:17:49.610 --> 00:17:55.250 particular problem with supporting this application as Councillor Cook 00:17:55.250 --> 00:18:02.270 queries into and Councillor wryness are outlined and as as we all know 00:18:02.600 --> 00:18:07.880 the yen that that the creative cultural arts sector leisure sector 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:15.440 entertainment sector as a whole has suffered enormously some of our 00:18:16.730 --> 00:18:22.400 then use in stock for had received support by the Arts Council so 00:18:23.060 --> 00:18:28.460 romilly theatre or romilly Forgan and chaos they they received some 00:18:28.460 --> 00:18:38.030 support as has the plaza and others and Garrick seems not to have bit 00:18:38.030 --> 00:18:44.390 vague but one of the the bit beneficiaries like a big big enough to 00:18:44.390 --> 00:18:52.040 support it and I'm happy if my ward colleagues agree to and contribute 00:18:52.040 --> 00:19:00.290 the amount asked for but I do know it the or Monday escape 5 postcode 00:19:00.290 --> 00:19:06.860 which is predominantly North Reddish there is a huge difference 00:19:06.860 --> 00:19:14.060 between the the the the customer base escape 5 and an escape for 00:19:14.360 --> 00:19:19.520 mustered difference nevertheless I would be happy to come to Bute the 00:19:19.520 --> 00:19:26.300 amount asked for but what I would ask the applicant for is just some 00:19:26.300 --> 00:19:33.980 idea of what they might be able to do in future to engage North 00:19:33.980 --> 00:19:40.400 Reddish community groups we have a very lively flourishing performance 00:19:40.700 --> 00:19:46.700 seen in North Reddish lots and lots of groups and in that South 00:19:46.940 --> 00:19:51.470 Reddish as well so I think had disliked him indication from a from the 00:19:51.470 --> 00:19:55.640 applicant what they might be able to do in future to engage with those 00:19:55.640 --> 00:20:00.920 groups and to engage with the people who live in North Reddish and 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:06.180 culture that with performance your fitness for office supply had saved 00:20:06.180 --> 00:20:09.300 Duckett's our successful got Council setting next 00:20:11.890 --> 00:20:16.840 thanks Convener I agree why were for a council abolished said and I 00:20:16.840 --> 00:20:20.710 was going to suggest perhaps I think everyone seems to be an agreement 00:20:20.710 --> 00:20:24.850 but just as a way so we can but perhaps move this forward I mean there 00:20:25.150 --> 00:20:28.630 I've not discussed this with my colleagues but perhaps Heatons North 00:20:28.630 --> 00:20:34.090 could pay on an extra 100 50 pounds to offset what's be impaired or by 00:20:34.090 --> 00:20:37.930 the Norse Reddish Councillors just to get this movement as I think we 00:20:37.930 --> 00:20:43.120 are in agreement with the distance between SK for an SK 5 but what 00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:46.420 does it say what I just found out stir like sort what stood out like a 00:20:46.420 --> 00:20:51.850 sore thumb was the fact the S key to which I think was the highest or 00:20:51.850 --> 00:20:57.370 second highest after SK 4 as been asked for a hundred quid I I just 00:20:57.370 --> 00:21:03.700 don't so that's mean way manner and offered and wards I just I don't 00:21:03.700 --> 00:21:07.750 understand what's happened there but you're I recognise that we are 00:21:08.020 --> 00:21:12.760 ever residents of the largest beneficiary some quite happy to pay a 00:21:12.760 --> 00:21:17.260 bit more yes I know half as long as a council to where Councillor 00:21:17.260 --> 00:21:18.250 wryness as well 00:21:20.300 --> 00:21:25.250 OK go on our way to them from the crusher sparked off the ball and 5 00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:30.200 Ward Member asked flawlessly principle 5 The Mercy it's until Samantha 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:35.510 does now Councillor fix pushed in Council of table there was to be 00:21:35.510 --> 00:21:39.050 honest gonna make you a similar proposal self maybe not quite as 00:21:39.050 --> 00:21:41.450 generous I'm sorry 00:21:41.850 --> 00:21:46.230 speaking very publicly an old council idea though he thought I was 00:21:46.230 --> 00:21:51.270 going to suggest that maybe we per and 300 potholes given the the how 00:21:51.270 --> 00:21:54.510 valued at conference quite probably can our ward 00:21:55.300 --> 00:21:59.380 I am happy to go with the same proposal as the other if you want you 00:21:59.380 --> 00:22:04.150 have you just to clarify what was through the Chair was at year 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:12.230 I'm effectiveness suggested an extra 50 pounds Field and Ehsan offered 00:22:12.260 --> 00:22:16.430 just next 100 pounds there's regard our right 00:22:18.690 --> 00:22:20.190 he said the prison cell 00:22:20.950 --> 00:22:24.910 your colleague have indicated their support tool for gold medals and 00:22:24.910 --> 00:22:29.110 open their though Eason's nor of councillors Blackett Council say that 00:22:29.560 --> 00:22:34.450 but our next are worth having was of the mental fouls James up on 00:22:34.450 --> 00:22:37.120 sewer Councillor with Pastika combats here 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:43.160 sorry I did actually pressed the wrong button but it seemed I was 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:46.280 going to be us up a scene and you did but don't want to contradict 00:22:46.280 --> 00:22:51.320 what other councillors a sad book is it can only propose that he can 00:22:51.320 --> 00:22:54.680 South book three-fifths thing I don't know if it was not going to 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:58.220 speak the heat was off countless forgiveness those I'll keep maybe 00:22:58.280 --> 00:23:01.010 we've been us for a thousand pounds could we say the brief if he 00:23:01.010 --> 00:23:03.140 preferred date for the remainder through 00:23:04.530 --> 00:23:05.910 the radishes sorry to 00:23:07.630 --> 00:23:10.750 can I ask Councillor gave his successor techniques that one 00:23:11.750 --> 00:23:12.830 hasan South 00:23:15.930 --> 00:23:21.960 yes I am thank you now raises no forgot Councillor Taylor next of some 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:26.700 pearls of the counter says Wick Councillor taking in response to that 00:23:26.700 --> 00:23:27.000 one 00:23:27.940 --> 00:23:32.530 yes I'm happy to agree with Councillor Smith Sedgwick's suggestion I 00:23:32.530 --> 00:23:34.540 Councillor wryness spot where 00:23:35.450 --> 00:23:41.060 yes I agree I'll get a fragrant green and with the increased amounts 00:23:41.090 --> 00:23:46.220 turn our support for the Gallic alive cast up in minutes in our art 00:23:46.460 --> 00:23:51.170 and also and else report to fill all the adequacy beneath in place the 00:23:51.170 --> 00:23:55.970 figures show that we are as a sports the ASA with the very cost it's 00:23:55.970 --> 00:23:59.870 brought sit upon felt Averroes agreed not one 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:06.360 chair before we move forward can I just confirm the amongst displayed 00:24:06.360 --> 00:24:15.570 so Beaton's he he to its Heaton South is 350 Heatons North is 350 00:24:16.110 --> 00:24:20.460 what's the final amounts for Reddish North and Reddish South please 00:24:22.420 --> 00:24:30.340 how silly serves so to 50 to kill to 50 to 50 Reddish North fictive 00:24:30.340 --> 00:24:31.180 very South 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:36.740 thank you very much Chair Alastair Morgan requested so aware that 00:24:37.070 --> 00:24:39.320 Departments of Edward busy curriculum 00:24:44.370 --> 00:24:53.070 I don't think so sorry to interrupt chairs and I'm not entirely sure 00:24:53.070 --> 00:24:58.560 you got that exactly right Dick mildest maybe it sorry maybe I 00:24:58.560 --> 00:25:03.720 misunderstood my understanding was that Heatons North for example were 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:09.780 happy to and contribute an extra 100 to reduce the Reddish North 00:25:09.780 --> 00:25:15.900 contravention because they did what you just outlined means that as an 00:25:15.900 --> 00:25:22.290 area committee where contributing more than we were asked for unless 00:25:22.290 --> 00:25:29.040 I've misunderstood sorry enacting trespass understood on the so 00:25:29.130 --> 00:25:34.950 regressed enough faces drafting South amateurs from facing Reddish 00:25:34.950 --> 00:25:35.520 North 00:25:38.230 --> 00:25:42.430 I'm very sour straight saves it isn't there 00:25:44.810 --> 00:25:45.590 2 50 00:25:48.660 --> 00:25:51.180 successfully sucked out its confiscated 00:25:55.120 --> 00:25:55.630 sorry 00:25:56.750 --> 00:25:57.440 CERA 00:25:59.850 --> 00:26:05.310 this is already Sousa who supported it still fitted to 50 resting with 00:26:05.310 --> 00:26:08.250 the original another snorefest capital plan 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:11.650 that of the move 00:26:21.410 --> 00:26:29.540 has she got started from the figure his foray I'm 150 on reflection of 00:26:29.540 --> 00:26:32.630 carried out drifting take the dog 00:26:34.050 --> 00:26:35.130 50 50 00:26:35.740 --> 00:26:43.150 in South Down insisted that it nor the facility south passing the app 00:26:43.810 --> 00:26:46.330 asks and rummage trap 00:26:49.070 --> 00:26:51.440 Councillor Foster tel 00:26:55.290 --> 00:26:56.340 he's back in the room 00:26:59.140 --> 00:27:05.200 OK welcomed back Councillor Foster we saved up kitchen faithfully so 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:10.990 of the could complete the details are acceptable flexibility funding 00:27:10.990 --> 00:27:15.520 the other outstanding a patient from the previous meeting can seek 00:27:15.520 --> 00:27:20.410 your huge the Firth this meeting about response to the result of the 00:27:20.410 --> 00:27:25.390 questions seek the author with his aplenty bobbly the still to 00:27:25.390 --> 00:27:30.430 outstanding questions which as I am result of in those and Councillor 00:27:30.430 --> 00:27:35.320 Taylor and Councillor Grimister costed his Ghostman see what do you 00:27:35.320 --> 00:27:39.580 want to defer this affordable depend on the question you asked 00:27:42.290 --> 00:27:43.400 have to say the first 00:27:45.660 --> 00:27:50.460 woke up on reflection I realised that I might have misunderstood the 00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:55.410 whole point of this exercise and a Mako council lionesses 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.640 compare has communicated with both myself and Councillor Sedgwick in 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:08.140 the meantime and what what I suspect it's for is to encourage young 00:28:08.140 --> 00:28:14.620 people to be capable of doing CPR and if that's the case then a couple 00:28:14.620 --> 00:28:20.200 of things arise one is that you got to have quality probably external 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:25.840 training as you would have if for instance you were taken up a 00:28:25.840 --> 00:28:30.730 position in a workplace to be a Health and Safety representative and 00:28:30.730 --> 00:28:35.680 that's all accredited work and it reviewable over 3 years etc etc and 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:40.660 and then your own coal out within your workplace to attend so events 00:28:40.840 --> 00:28:42.250 and deal with an appropriately 00:28:42.650 --> 00:28:46.460 I just don't think we're in that league with with the young people 00:28:46.730 --> 00:28:52.850 I've got a card which is issued by the the prime at the principle 00:28:53.540 --> 00:28:58.820 heart charity British heart Foundation which have been carrying around 00:28:58.820 --> 00:29:03.650 for years which summarises what to do with CPR but I only I would only 00:29:03.650 --> 00:29:07.940 endeavour to use that on the basis that I have had fallen training you 00:29:07.940 --> 00:29:12.890 know I'll over serious nature of in one of these couple of days were 00:29:12.890 --> 00:29:16.640 three days were and and then you have to do your your that triennial 00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:17.930 Tuttle so 00:29:18.810 --> 00:29:23.730 I suspect that what is being asked for is misguided and and what I 00:29:23.760 --> 00:29:26.880 what I was going to do it was to find out when the British heart 00:29:26.940 --> 00:29:32.220 Foundation actually pick up the phone to deal we might inquiries it 00:29:32.520 --> 00:29:37.380 just what we could reasonably do and that might well be targeted so 00:29:37.380 --> 00:29:43.140 people in schools who were adults and Amie tag in so people in schools 00:29:43.140 --> 00:29:49.350 are already health and safety orientated representatives and one that 00:29:49.350 --> 00:29:53.280 would give it the sort of structural underpinning because otherwise 00:29:53.280 --> 00:29:56.280 you know a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and you don't want to 00:29:56.280 --> 00:30:00.030 throw poor little kids in at the Dheepan who haven't got the 00:30:00.030 --> 00:30:04.710 capability to deliver on what appears to be an asked that the of them 00:30:04.770 --> 00:30:06.960 in the it to perform thank you 00:30:09.250 --> 00:30:12.700 I am Councillor Fitzpatrick impact 00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:17.690 air thanks to the last meeting I think we were all in agreement that 00:30:18.020 --> 00:30:22.370 one way or another that term this this type of training would be 00:30:22.370 --> 00:30:27.230 beneficial for everybody not less not not only young people in my own 00:30:27.320 --> 00:30:31.370 opinion is that like staving and probably some other things should be 00:30:31.370 --> 00:30:36.170 part of what is an already packed curriculum I do think it should be 00:30:36.170 --> 00:30:39.170 part of training will be given to your people 00:30:40.560 --> 00:30:41.250 in school 00:30:42.040 --> 00:30:46.180 but the question that I did ask is could we get some officer advice on 00:30:46.180 --> 00:30:52.030 this and is this a good use of resources the principle of training 00:30:52.030 --> 00:30:58.030 young people going off on CPR goals without question in my mind bought 00:30:58.120 --> 00:31:02.920 is this an appropriate use of our farms couldn't use it in another way 00:31:02.950 --> 00:31:08.500 could we give it to the education portfolio for example and use it 00:31:08.500 --> 00:31:09.700 more productively 00:31:10.460 --> 00:31:15.890 the we have that advice we got an extremely knowledgeable and 00:31:15.890 --> 00:31:19.430 experience not have they given an opinion on this one 00:31:22.410 --> 00:31:26.400 chair I might come in their sorry we've had no response back from the 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:31.530 officers I did in contact the officers both on Council officers and 00:31:31.560 --> 00:31:35.610 officers from public health but not had a response back in time for 00:31:35.610 --> 00:31:36.480 this meeting Chair 00:31:37.780 --> 00:31:40.030 thanks to Councillor riders 00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:48.800 Onslow wryness your microphone is muted 00:31:54.330 --> 00:31:58.920 I'm sorry I don't I can't get this right there's always somebody I'm I 00:31:58.950 --> 00:32:01.410 don't want to be negative about this little because I think it would 00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:05.850 over people how to get going in the right way I don't think you know a 00:32:05.850 --> 00:32:08.400 billboard in an obit self-sufficient I think it needs to be 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:13.110 accompanied by training I don't think I think that we risked 00:32:13.110 --> 00:32:18.060 misconceptions or why's all the road all information has not been 00:32:18.060 --> 00:32:20.850 committed to long-term memory so I think it needs to be completed by 00:32:20.850 --> 00:32:21.510 something 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.300 I like the idea to contain the officers involved perhaps moving into 00:32:25.300 --> 00:32:30.040 education portfolio it doesn't need me grey that it's worthwhile 00:32:31.790 --> 00:32:32.870 Councillor Foster 00:32:34.770 --> 00:32:38.700 chip as fake we still have got 00:32:39.850 --> 00:32:44.110 the major question while because I did at the last meeting that's 00:32:44.590 --> 00:32:48.670 where the schools had been approached in relation to this and the 00:32:48.670 --> 00:32:54.130 response to spin rather lukewarm you know we've been asked to commit 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:59.380 to what is a good principle not look out of a screamer but surely our 00:32:59.380 --> 00:33:03.820 school should have been actually consulted in relation to this prior 00:33:03.820 --> 00:33:06.370 to ors making the final position 00:33:08.330 --> 00:33:11.780 and I just find it rather erm 00:33:13.770 --> 00:33:18.450 different the wind would make this kind of approach possible when we 00:33:18.450 --> 00:33:25.050 are looking at handing out public poems normally would actually have 00:33:25.050 --> 00:33:28.710 the commitments there for that's where the expenditure can take place 00:33:28.740 --> 00:33:33.090 rather than it being and I'm gonna use the word speculative but it is 00:33:33.090 --> 00:33:37.950 speculative that this is going to be used for all schools across 00:33:37.950 --> 00:33:42.570 Stockport put off all secondary schools across Stockport but only one 00:33:42.630 --> 00:33:45.150 as actually indicated so far 00:33:45.850 --> 00:33:50.800 so I think we should advise the organisation call them to get the 00:33:50.800 --> 00:33:53.980 commitment of those schools I think it's it's a fundamental issue 00:33:56.180 --> 00:33:59.900 I'm sorry I can't faster out a currency now 00:34:03.930 --> 00:34:08.250 My fear is this you know in schools Wister could not so lots of not 00:34:08.250 --> 00:34:13.170 serve notices and things and people are Szubin take-note is of them I 00:34:13.170 --> 00:34:18.540 agree with Councillor Reiner's it's the insufficient just have the the 00:34:18.540 --> 00:34:23.550 billboards took up I I think it's possible that we should aim in the 00:34:23.550 --> 00:34:28.140 future for people to learn about this in the HSE in secondary schools 00:34:28.170 --> 00:34:29.820 perhaps but Sir 00:34:31.150 --> 00:34:35.860 if it was part of the curriculum or can't see why the school couldn't 00:34:35.860 --> 00:34:39.670 actually buy it themselves because are 2 9 9 in the great scheme of 00:34:39.670 --> 00:34:44.290 things isn't a fortune for a school to buy but it's pretty meaningless 00:34:44.290 --> 00:34:51.010 I think to just as erm billboard up in a school without any kind of 00:34:51.010 --> 00:34:58.150 teaching to go with it so I'm not sure that I would want our funds to 00:34:58.150 --> 00:34:59.170 be used for that 00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:04.520 because we know the Pottermore deserving cases something we can 00:35:04.520 --> 00:35:11.220 actually see the benefit OK are we opted for this from the previous me 00:35:11.220 --> 00:35:16.290 see wastrel more information and if not got the necessary information 00:35:17.850 --> 00:35:22.500 on mine here I think need to look insist I think throughout the 00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:26.160 shopping by designated first-aiders when I work the work were 00:35:26.430 --> 00:35:30.930 detonated there stays there was an obviously in extreme situation and 00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:35.340 if so as I walk in the Lake District Youth hearthside re-clad of any 00:35:35.340 --> 00:35:39.930 Alpi source of sun the seen on TV to have to say the IPL I think when 00:35:39.930 --> 00:35:42.990 school they will be possibly does native first days available 00:35:43.750 --> 00:35:48.100 in the absence of any claim made to the House scale considered 00:35:48.100 --> 00:35:53.230 beneficial schools Hartley up to what's already there other thing we 00:35:53.230 --> 00:35:58.240 all accept the PM's me to Nasa more breaking now row defer again high 00:35:58.930 --> 00:36:02.860 postage justice here the kitty should considered for periods of 00:36:02.860 --> 00:36:09.040 clerking and acids thin apply include welcome to consult with the hit 00:36:09.250 --> 00:36:14.170 on the Thiepval and Brock how things work effectively enough to of 00:36:14.170 --> 00:36:18.880 course nor anything for the dead-nettle affected in schools how 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:20.410 remarked to chemists 00:36:20.900 --> 00:36:22.520 though the surface 00:36:24.450 --> 00:36:32.340 I creature I can't suspects Patrick I would second that with the 00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:37.770 proviso that they approach I don't want to name him people we ought 00:36:37.770 --> 00:36:40.800 wicked we probably a whole load of the officers who they would go to 00:36:41.010 --> 00:36:45.390 what to approach officers within the Education portfolio who 00:36:45.390 --> 00:36:49.590 specialise within the felt or on this type of thing approach then come 00:36:49.590 --> 00:36:53.010 up with a plan and then consider coming back towards but otherwise 00:36:53.010 --> 00:36:57.660 after I'd second what you prepare Libya can thanks very much 00:36:58.300 --> 00:37:00.460 so I cannot say 00:37:01.250 --> 00:37:01.640 the 00:37:03.420 --> 00:37:07.410 therefore we should seek advice from Council officers as well is that 00:37:07.590 --> 00:37:12.150 agreed by committing agreed thank you very much trade 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:19.090 OK everyone silly met states in the light of five different 00:37:19.090 --> 00:37:24.700 applications we don't of the Devante location close meeting so he now 00:37:25.870 --> 00:37:30.370 one-night through it his 6 punnet bills and forcing building course 00:37:30.370 --> 00:37:35.080 notice are this point of time wants to take up an issue raised by 00:37:35.080 --> 00:37:40.240 Councillors that we consider the e-mail tilt another 10th focused 00:37:40.240 --> 00:37:47.020 garden are concerned about what's happening that Shaw for farm so well 00:37:47.020 --> 00:37:52.960 from a kind of some that way but it able bodied forth still list 00:37:53.170 --> 00:37:54.040 self-set with 00:38:00.620 --> 00:38:03.530 I've just done the opposite of that we just knew it myself anyway 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.490 thank you Chairman and thank you for allowing this I'm I'm sure 00:38:08.490 --> 00:38:12.900 colleagues working at the e-mails air we're on well have seen the 00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:18.120 pictures that were sent round by Charles I regarding the work that's 00:38:18.120 --> 00:38:24.450 gone on sure Fold Farm now I have significant concerns about this just 00:38:24.450 --> 00:38:28.920 to put colleagues in the light as his a housing development that is 00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:34.110 wet Troy happening on every boundary the development has a full 00:38:34.110 --> 00:38:39.540 planning application however as you can see from the pictures a number 00:38:39.600 --> 00:38:43.440 of a significant Eddie of hedgerow and a couple of trees have been 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:44.070 removed 00:38:44.500 --> 00:38:48.280 now why is that significant because that is right up to the boundary 00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:52.990 with Stockport and the area which takes you earn high Phil Country 00:38:52.990 --> 00:38:59.410 Park from next Rock broad North has been decimated if you were Qatar 00:38:59.500 --> 00:39:04.180 to me that his query environmental vandalism when was nor Planning 00:39:04.180 --> 00:39:09.040 Commission allowed four of us no grant as a Manchester application 00:39:09.520 --> 00:39:14.140 however vessel drastic we impacts on the amenity of ever residents not 00:39:14.140 --> 00:39:17.290 just in the Heatons but the whole of an offer Stockport because many 00:39:17.290 --> 00:39:21.460 people use it as an area your tickle walks and I think what people 00:39:21.460 --> 00:39:26.020 have used their student times of walk down to exercise and to get some 00:39:26.020 --> 00:39:31.210 fresh air but that is just completely unacceptable so why are we can 00:39:31.210 --> 00:39:36.340 take enforcement action as a as a Borough I do think that we should 00:39:36.340 --> 00:39:41.200 make absolutely clear at Manchester City Council services completely 00:39:41.200 --> 00:39:46.030 unacceptable and we would encourage that their planning enforcement 00:39:46.030 --> 00:39:50.530 team not just a weekend service but right to the developer and exploit 00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:54.010 over gonna put this right because it's not acceptable to do that 00:39:54.340 --> 00:40:00.730 you've got you've taken over a whole area of mature hedgerow via and 00:40:00.730 --> 00:40:04.060 and it's not on and I don't think we should accept that it's not 00:40:04.060 --> 00:40:07.290 neighbour weight and it's not consider so I think we should write to 00:40:07.290 --> 00:40:11.700 them and urgently take immediate action against the developers thank 00:40:11.700 --> 00:40:16.560 you Chair and soon tell set with his Maplin Norway's are agreed view 00:40:16.770 --> 00:40:21.210 in the another mussed-up catching you'd expect their Consort officers 00:40:21.210 --> 00:40:26.400 informed and Alison massacres say nothing else are Grenier what else 00:40:26.460 --> 00:40:28.050 will speak on this issue 00:40:30.700 --> 00:40:35.710 Councillor can see no ha first and Councillor Kate Barker Casagrande 00:40:35.710 --> 00:40:36.790 Cedar first 00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:44.990 no I propose we could Councillor gwario into 00:40:49.170 --> 00:40:52.200 it's still muted consul agrarian so my apologies 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:59.050 go to Surrey able to trigger finger when zookeepers so yes I agree 00:40:59.050 --> 00:41:03.880 with Councillor Sedgwick that if there's no planning permission it was 00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:08.260 absolutely deplorable because I can remember a in another part of 00:41:08.260 --> 00:41:14.350 Stockport a builder just casually destroying a whole copse of trees 00:41:14.560 --> 00:41:17.830 and or saying that he didn't realise you needed planning permission or 00:41:18.040 --> 00:41:23.620 permission to Trotman down so yet and it is an area that serves some 00:41:23.620 --> 00:41:28.930 very inner inner-city tie per built up areas and is really important 00:41:28.930 --> 00:41:31.750 isn't it to keep these areas as 00:41:33.050 --> 00:41:36.110 in a much of an amenity to the public as possible 00:41:38.520 --> 00:41:40.830 thank you Councillor Bob or your next 00:41:43.300 --> 00:41:44.230 thank you Chair 00:41:44.870 --> 00:41:51.470 at the I'd like to make a suggestion that yes we ask the Council as an 00:41:51.470 --> 00:41:58.910 entity to make representations to Manchester City Council but I'm also 00:41:58.910 --> 00:42:05.270 wondering whether this area committee the Councillors also write to 00:42:05.270 --> 00:42:13.220 the Manchester City Council and to make our thoughts and feelings very 00:42:13.220 --> 00:42:21.590 very very plain in a language that as Councillors we come speak that 00:42:21.620 --> 00:42:25.670 officers may be slightly inhibited from doing so 00:42:28.590 --> 00:42:30.270 OK degrees south 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:38.380 Barack Obama won yeah Norfolk bought saw a really good idea I K a high 00:42:38.380 --> 00:42:42.400 house I've already written to I the Chair of the Planning Committee 00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:47.380 about an alert urging him to to investigate about why I think it's a 00:42:47.380 --> 00:42:51.430 very good point and I would also encourage other colleagues to do that 00:42:51.430 --> 00:42:57.040 as well cut could ask rather knows all 12 counts originator master 00:42:57.340 --> 00:43:01.840 could persuade yourself or Councillor barbed wire a strongly worded 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:07.180 lustre of complaints and code signed by all air or names aesthetically 00:43:07.180 --> 00:43:11.020 see assumed they wish to do so I said he would want to add my name to 00:43:11.020 --> 00:43:14.920 that approved more effect dipping from a propose rather each 00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:19.720 individual next Arctic the poet cross-party to plead on that 00:43:19.720 --> 00:43:24.520 Countersett quick and all Harpic counts sign that your way he sent a 00:43:24.520 --> 00:43:28.180 draft to us argued rubbish it's are blind eighth-round the conduct of 00:43:28.240 --> 00:43:29.080 hormones there 00:43:29.450 --> 00:43:34.550 Heather commits a nascent from the all councillors but be OK 00:43:36.540 --> 00:43:42.990 as Councillor Taylor thanks Chair of had correspondence from a 00:43:42.990 --> 00:43:46.980 resident of London Zoo moves interested in the Fallowfield Loop cycle 00:43:46.980 --> 00:43:51.510 way which go straight up the middle of the photos that Councillor 00:43:51.510 --> 00:43:59.040 Sedgwick furnished and she is quite clear that the responsibility to 00:43:59.040 --> 00:44:04.500 react to this is as Councillor Sedgwick's suggested a and enforcements 00:44:05.370 --> 00:44:11.400 initiative generated by a Manchester planners so I think that I'm all 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.760 for right into them but we ought to start off by giving them a chance 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:18.840 to answer what they're already doing because I found inconceivable 00:44:19.170 --> 00:44:24.060 that it will not become a planning enforcement issue by Manchester an 00:44:24.060 --> 00:44:29.490 if Manchester and it's it's inconceivable and in fact it isn't the 00:44:29.490 --> 00:44:35.580 case that the that the the planning proposal which didn't get original 00:44:35.580 --> 00:44:37.590 improvement in its original form 00:44:38.770 --> 00:44:45.490 it was was basically put in in screen fencing along here and as I said 00:44:45.490 --> 00:44:49.750 that that wasn't accepted at the time and the idea that you would 00:44:49.750 --> 00:44:53.860 would would you think you will get and open screen fencing this was 00:44:53.860 --> 00:44:56.650 boarded fence in there were originally talking about which would have 00:44:56.650 --> 00:45:02.200 looked pretty ugly in its own right so I think that Manchester will 00:45:02.200 --> 00:45:06.930 deal with this and I think that it's almost inconceivable that the 00:45:06.930 --> 00:45:12.720 planning permission that the developers working so legitimises what 00:45:12.720 --> 00:45:16.050 has happened and therefore that Manchester planners are in quite a 00:45:16.050 --> 00:45:19.530 strong position if they if they do what they ought to do and and then 00:45:19.530 --> 00:45:24.060 wish we should let them tell us what that do it whilst simultaneously 00:45:24.060 --> 00:45:28.680 pointed out what our reasonable expectations are as well but but two 00:45:28.680 --> 00:45:35.640 adverts to miss that step is is an unnecessary weakness in a in what 00:45:35.640 --> 00:45:39.660 we need by way of a comprehensive and effective response than King 00:45:40.990 --> 00:45:45.010 a further survey work was suggestion that can be cooked they of in 00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:47.980 officious must the Council result the 00:45:50.240 --> 00:45:53.180 there are concerns about and asked if this job must have been the 00:45:53.630 --> 00:45:58.580 councils this committee is hello much in the staff can Plantation 00:45:58.730 --> 00:46:02.900 bought made that lumpish and doesn't sound to what they have done and 00:46:02.900 --> 00:46:06.980 therefore as planning force and to shift much that there was a very 00:46:06.980 --> 00:46:11.000 surprised with ASB in the given official approval by the must planning 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:17.150 policy that he must indeed so I'm Irvin so tripod fitted us the 00:46:17.150 --> 00:46:22.940 council to our colleagues in Munch's to Paul so I'm a group letter 00:46:22.940 --> 00:46:29.120 from all of us are from her Dame says you would appease the plus the 00:46:29.120 --> 00:46:31.970 cello panic Messi David Hitchcock or not one 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:43.200 sorry right what it would adjoin that different the members of this 00:46:43.200 --> 00:46:49.320 Committee B to the Chair of Munster articulacy all to ask the Leader 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:50.430 must announce law 00:46:52.450 --> 00:46:59.770 yeah I mean I think we can send it to the I'm the chain of appointing 00:46:59.770 --> 00:47:04.840 Committee but I do think as well perhaps it could go to every officer 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.720 we'd as well when I think as John said Vitter of no doubt that 00:47:07.720 --> 00:47:13.450 Manchester will be I investigate in this but I do think the whole the 00:47:13.450 --> 00:47:19.570 whole point that I want to press on Nessa's because it is this is 00:47:19.600 --> 00:47:24.220 impacts which truly sent me a strong boundary and effect Max be 00:47:24.220 --> 00:47:29.620 assurers but I think that we need to to El the developer not 00:47:29.620 --> 00:47:32.650 necessarily the City Council have every confidence that they will be 00:47:32.650 --> 00:47:35.680 doing this but there is a completely unacceptable Merv that the 00:47:35.680 --> 00:47:37.990 developer has those taken nearly so 00:47:38.750 --> 00:47:41.750 I think we just need to spell that out as an Area Committee level and 00:47:41.780 --> 00:47:46.460 and as a local authority that we don't find this acceptable OK you 00:47:46.460 --> 00:47:50.960 draft up but a second bore comparison on the third should the same 00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.430 Munster punnet Missy Afghan Fisher bishops materials we do not see a 00:47:55.430 --> 00:48:01.970 fat felt reproached prizes outdoor so publicly had right types may 00:48:01.970 --> 00:48:05.180 much should bring in their shoots our essential know all the 00:48:05.180 --> 00:48:09.230 colleagues about 30 miles from concern by the PSNI and the problem has 00:48:09.230 --> 00:48:12.920 been pedestrian route in the Boundary Park dense fine who was 00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:18.350 responsible for this problem so route thanks very much that one of go 00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:24.290 so we take us on appeals in force appeals and force gnosis and we 00:48:24.290 --> 00:48:27.800 acted report from the street alone only or surface 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:32.850 report summarises with the recent appeal decisions constipated and 00:48:32.850 --> 00:48:37.260 closing dates and their concerns us no reference in the report so 00:48:37.470 --> 00:48:43.170 assume you all it calls on those issues up owls' thus report itself 00:48:43.740 --> 00:48:45.900 how will Patsy no reports 00:48:47.890 --> 00:48:54.370 OK then that's the noted thanks very much are hard to ice and server 00:48:54.370 --> 00:48:58.990 which is the posh hotel development scene Ethan Chapel considered it 00:48:58.990 --> 00:49:03.310 bought from the corporate Act place us regeneration filing details 00:49:03.310 --> 00:49:08.860 about the site and traffic regulation orders so am degree of not 00:49:08.860 --> 00:49:11.020 concept Sentinus tonight's 00:49:12.170 --> 00:49:17.360 no Chair no officers present they forced or RUC sounds and our members 00:49:17.420 --> 00:49:21.530 will have read the reports recommendations so and comments or 00:49:21.530 --> 00:49:23.150 recommendations for members 00:49:27.660 --> 00:49:32.400 Kent urgent just to say that we are very glad that our developing 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:35.400 assure until at last we've had several applications have weighed 00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:40.890 nothing happened so it will be very disruptive but it's a welcome 00:49:40.890 --> 00:49:45.240 development room I'll catch some well Canada under the actual 00:49:45.240 --> 00:49:49.170 application also the need for tougher regulation of the City of some 00:49:49.530 --> 00:49:54.960 tough Tompkinson's rises in the 38th itself tough has been not how 00:49:54.960 --> 00:50:01.110 through down with an earth and I could write came next item is number 00:50:01.140 --> 00:50:05.730 8 wishes water-filled grow Reddish against report the carpet us 00:50:05.730 --> 00:50:10.650 replace madman's under course class D surplus so no waiting at any 00:50:10.650 --> 00:50:16.320 time restrictions are passable film Grove in Reddish aren't again a 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.400 dog run opposite this Margot Councillor Clancy now wish to speak on 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:25.260 that one well yes that again this is something that we are we welcome 00:50:25.260 --> 00:50:30.300 because the the moment it is a very tricky situation is a dead-end and 00:50:30.300 --> 00:50:35.670 FU enter the road and can't turn out you're forced to reverse all the 00:50:35.670 --> 00:50:39.900 way back onto the main road which is not a good thing to do so where 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:41.430 we're happy for that to go ahead 00:50:42.250 --> 00:50:43.990 that's exactly per se 00:50:44.900 --> 00:50:45.530 thank you 00:50:46.950 --> 00:50:53.580 OK on to item 9 now was the One Stop bought for a plan or reported on 00:50:53.580 --> 00:50:58.140 their knees on your agenda you read it Piroska presentation by the 00:50:58.140 --> 00:51:05.400 least rights so they so are you here a guy cannot evening thank you 00:51:05.670 --> 00:51:09.780 and yet after do have some slides that summarised that rapport and if 00:51:09.780 --> 00:51:14.160 you want I can go through them all the can be circulated to members 00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:16.870 I am 00:51:19.670 --> 00:51:24.410 probably dual-fuel to from the sliced sons copies of the so as metre 00:51:24.410 --> 00:51:28.640 wooden fence area no problem Charles are you able to share the slides 00:51:28.640 --> 00:51:29.450 for me please 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:40.470 thank you so our Charles is doing that so yeah this items following on 00:51:40.470 --> 00:51:44.490 from an update on One Stop put that was given by Catherine Reece and 00:51:44.670 --> 00:51:48.630 to Eric Committee in November and we said we come back with an update 00:51:48.630 --> 00:51:52.890 on the progression of the Borough Plan and and how if progressed 00:51:52.890 --> 00:51:56.280 incorporating use my residents businesses and workforce through data 00:51:56.280 --> 00:52:00.720 and insight so you previously had an off-day on on One Stop what what 00:52:00.720 --> 00:52:02.220 the One Stop movement is 00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:06.610 I'm flowing out of that is a series of Stop conversations that we've 00:52:06.610 --> 00:52:12.580 been having throughout the year am and from that will be the 00:52:12.580 --> 00:52:16.780 development of our One Stop were plan which are shared Partnership 00:52:16.780 --> 00:52:20.530 Plan for the borough which sets out our priorities for the next 10 00:52:20.530 --> 00:52:23.980 years and that will then obviously be underpinned by a partnership 00:52:23.980 --> 00:52:28.030 plans and any talking isolation thank you Charles 00:52:33.860 --> 00:52:38.300 thank you so yeah as I said the bar plan outlines our shared strategic 00:52:38.300 --> 00:52:43.190 aspirations for the Borough looking ahead 20 30 we've been hearing a 00:52:43.190 --> 00:52:46.580 strong message needs to be bold and on the front foot and have an 00:52:46.580 --> 00:52:51.440 ambitious approach and looked towards building a hopeful future and 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.620 the plan will describe how will work together as well as what will 00:52:54.620 --> 00:52:55.970 collaborate together on 00:52:57.900 --> 00:53:02.160 so as I say throughout the year we've done an a number of various 00:53:02.160 --> 00:53:06.990 engagement exercises with had to be quite creative due to Cove it we 00:53:06.990 --> 00:53:09.810 haven't always been able to use the engagement methods that we would 00:53:09.810 --> 00:53:14.850 normally want to use them so in order to do that we've we've engaged 00:53:14.850 --> 00:53:18.300 the representative organisations such as the voluntary and community 00:53:18.300 --> 00:53:22.260 sector and prizes and through our communities teams to hear the views 00:53:22.260 --> 00:53:27.300 and experiences of as a of as many groups as we called able yet online 00:53:27.300 --> 00:53:32.100 surveys video bows workshops through forums one-to-one conversations 00:53:32.460 --> 00:53:37.170 and obviously to councillors and through various for forums as well 00:53:39.130 --> 00:53:40.960 so until the next slide 00:53:41.630 --> 00:53:47.810 them we've engaged all residents through very surveys as a say we've 00:53:47.810 --> 00:53:51.710 been so revelatory increases as lens price sector meetings regularly 00:53:52.040 --> 00:53:58.190 we've attended and various business forums we've held discussions with 00:53:58.190 --> 00:54:02.960 young people were young people groups older people's groups parents 00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:08.270 and carers and all residents about future priorities and aspirations 00:54:08.270 --> 00:54:11.870 and actually in fact this week with also engage with them faith 00:54:11.870 --> 00:54:13.340 networks and 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:18.090 we've got Sam a Race Equality partnership meeting as well 00:54:19.540 --> 00:54:21.130 next slide 00:54:22.730 --> 00:54:27.410 I'm and yet so true that we've spoken to over 12 hundred people and 00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:31.760 alongside that we've been analysing the data and intelligence that we 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:35.990 hold to try and understand the option opportunities and challenges for 00:54:35.990 --> 00:54:40.580 our communities as well so what we've heard is that people are 00:54:40.580 --> 00:54:42.350 passionate about their local area 00:54:42.930 --> 00:54:46.530 we heard community strongly people enjoy being part of a community 00:54:46.650 --> 00:54:49.560 they want to support local businesses and they want to get involved in 00:54:49.560 --> 00:54:53.760 the community equality equity in Yoonessi are really important for 00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:56.370 alchemy in says and at the heart of how we want to work together in 00:54:56.370 --> 00:55:00.480 the future with heard particularly from our children young people 00:55:00.750 --> 00:55:04.530 about caring for the environment and proactively addressing climate 00:55:04.530 --> 00:55:05.100 change 00:55:05.950 --> 00:55:09.190 people business and communities talked about the importance of 00:55:09.250 --> 00:55:14.050 inclusive employment opportunities so we won't be able to enable local 00:55:14.050 --> 00:55:15.940 people to the businesses to flourish 00:55:16.580 --> 00:55:20.060 I am and we've also heard obviously that people continue to be 00:55:20.060 --> 00:55:24.020 impacted by COVID-19 whether that's through the health employment or 00:55:24.020 --> 00:55:26.120 well-being and concerns for the future 00:55:27.810 --> 00:55:32.010 in terms of the data we know that stop what's population is changing 00:55:32.430 --> 00:55:35.730 we've got an increasingly culturally diverse community and we have an 00:55:35.730 --> 00:55:39.540 ageing population and were a popular place for people to relocate and 00:55:39.540 --> 00:55:44.340 live we have a strong economy and were one of the top 20 UK for 00:55:44.340 --> 00:55:47.730 productivity growth and were responding well to new emerging 00:55:47.730 --> 00:55:51.570 industries such as digital however when other areas we do face the 00:55:51.570 --> 00:55:56.190 challenge of unemployment we are apart a polarised Bora one of the top 00:55:56.190 --> 00:55:59.910 10 in England we have residents living in some of the most affluent 00:55:59.910 --> 00:56:04.140 but also some of the least affluent areas in England in general 00:56:04.140 --> 00:56:08.520 children perform well however some of the most vulnerable children 00:56:08.550 --> 00:56:11.010 don't perform as well as their peers across England 00:56:12.130 --> 00:56:17.170 we there are tend to have good health outcomes and life expectancy at 00:56:17.200 --> 00:56:20.080 we are an ageing population and we know that this will resort in 00:56:20.080 --> 00:56:25.690 health and care charges in the future so in terms of the planet self 00:56:25.870 --> 00:56:32.140 as I say we are carrying out a wide variety of engagement am and were 00:56:32.140 --> 00:56:33.880 engaged through our partners as well 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:38.600 and that's happening now and it has been happening for a while and 00:56:38.660 --> 00:56:42.500 them we are going to start to develop the actual planet self which 00:56:42.500 --> 00:56:46.490 will go through organisational governance and will be brought to full 00:56:46.490 --> 00:56:51.590 council in February which will then will then have leadership some in 00:56:51.590 --> 00:56:58.760 March so at welcome now an comments from Committee really on whether 00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:03.890 you have any reflections on the rapport any comments am an event like 00:57:03.890 --> 00:57:04.340 to say 00:57:07.410 --> 00:57:12.780 o Sandell said he members must make a commerce of questions about now 00:57:12.780 --> 00:57:17.790 structure to so you answer indicates are Councillor Janet obstacle of 00:57:17.790 --> 00:57:22.260 that first Janna OK thanks Chair thank you the presentation there and 00:57:22.260 --> 00:57:26.790 be really good if you can send those round as well I just want so 00:57:26.820 --> 00:57:31.710 raised the point that you made about health outcomes and there are 00:57:31.710 --> 00:57:35.490 significant differences in health outcomes and life expectancies 00:57:35.490 --> 00:57:42.180 across top or linked to as you say the areas there are the most 00:57:42.180 --> 00:57:45.540 affluent than the least affluent 0 just want to give it explore that a 00:57:45.540 --> 00:57:49.500 little bit more because I think that the Health difference says and 00:57:49.500 --> 00:57:53.370 life expectancy differences are quite significant indicators in our 00:57:53.370 --> 00:57:54.600 borough and came 00:57:55.810 --> 00:58:00.280 yes thank you Councillor yet as I say we are looking at our day to in 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:04.840 a in a lot of detail one of the other things that we are doing is 00:58:05.350 --> 00:58:08.980 there will be an a space on our One Stop hot website which will be 00:58:08.980 --> 00:58:13.330 called the backstop picture and it will be a hub for all of our data 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:17.590 which will be open source for everybody to use so that when we gather 00:58:17.590 --> 00:58:20.650 that data we know that it can truly be used by ourselves our partners 00:58:20.650 --> 00:58:24.400 our communities to try and understand and shape services going forward 00:58:27.710 --> 00:58:29.570 I'll Kassabova Dext 00:58:33.030 --> 00:58:39.960 thank you Chair and it didn't earth a comment and just to on and I 00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:45.990 think we should be really proud as a Council of the way there that 00:58:45.990 --> 00:58:51.450 that they're writing of the Borough Plan is being approached I think 00:58:51.450 --> 00:58:57.180 it's the first time ever that so much engagement just talking to 00:58:57.180 --> 00:59:02.700 people about what's important to them has been the starting point 00:59:02.700 --> 00:59:11.400 before writing the Borough Plan I think we we in common with most 00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:17.970 institutions and local authorities and I'm good different tiers of of 00:59:18.540 --> 00:59:22.590 of government I think it's really easy to fall into the trap of 00:59:22.590 --> 00:59:26.130 thinking that you know what people think and you know what their 00:59:26.130 --> 00:59:32.430 priorities are but you can't you can't then look back and say well 00:59:32.940 --> 00:59:37.320 pick people told us that this is what it is important to them 00:59:38.190 --> 00:59:43.590 unearthing a thing of one another really encouraging aspect of what 00:59:43.590 --> 00:59:50.490 we've seen so far Lisa and and the team is the very explicit 00:59:50.550 --> 00:59:56.670 acknowledgement that Stockport is very polarised borough outside of 00:59:56.670 --> 01:00:03.630 Stockport people and still assume that we are pretty much across the 01:00:03.630 --> 01:00:10.170 board quite affluent when the fact is that our deprived communities 01:00:10.350 --> 01:00:15.450 are not just among the most deprived communities in in the country 01:00:15.660 --> 01:00:20.130 they at day are actually right there with the most deprived 01:00:20.670 --> 01:00:26.670 communities and I think I think this is just a really good place to 01:00:26.670 --> 01:00:33.570 start just being really honest and and really open and and just 01:00:33.570 --> 01:00:39.270 getting getting the facts and the evidence straight at out there right 01:00:39.270 --> 01:00:45.330 from the off I think it means that will end up with a long term plan 01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:52.050 that is robust that is fit for the future and takes everybody's needs 01:00:52.080 --> 01:00:54.870 and once into consideration thank you 01:00:56.470 --> 01:01:02.410 trying very conspicuous members for that direction constitution Sener 01:01:02.950 --> 01:01:07.930 customers and Councillor Burt luck I throw much thoughts on the thanks 01:01:07.930 --> 01:01:11.950 very much day surf a presentation and dirt we will not our interest 01:01:11.950 --> 01:01:16.450 where you go any further questions or comments thank you thanks Chair 01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:19.840 I yelled send the presentation amount there's also to really nice that 01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.390 he owes in there that you might want to watch in your own time as well 01:01:22.720 --> 01:01:26.710 it could include those as well cause say sought sockets of find our 01:01:26.710 --> 01:01:29.170 Barbossa that's going to bring to 01:01:32.450 --> 01:01:38.210 OK the Nexalites him I'm going to come across Darius there does nights 01:01:38.210 --> 01:01:42.680 in which his theme ice about traffic calming measures along Great 01:01:42.680 --> 01:01:47.120 streets who should so sense he separately with showing your Tansey 01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:55.340 Holika arm so are already rapport Councillor C and C No to that speak 01:01:55.460 --> 01:02:01.910 can't go ahead place yeah so I'm basically this was this came to us on 01:02:01.910 --> 01:02:05.570 Friday just have to it had our highways rating so we miss the 01:02:05.570 --> 01:02:09.320 opportunity to go into it in depth there are one or two things as 01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:13.430 according as a bit of concern so we are having a new highways meeting 01:02:13.460 --> 01:02:17.540 as in the journey to January to discuss ICC so alert to defer it 01:02:17.540 --> 01:02:20.360 please thank you OK about that plus agreed 01:02:20.850 --> 01:02:26.340 to defer the decision on this and saw February smutty more detail 01:02:26.580 --> 01:02:32.790 that's the NUS good taxpaying much that saw no that okay I'm but don't 01:02:32.790 --> 01:02:37.020 nets his progress an alchemist decisions and their committee is asked 01:02:37.020 --> 01:02:43.170 to note proposals are not questions about the content of water 01:02:45.040 --> 01:02:51.760 how can I as Chair just password members the recording devices on the 01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:57.490 Crocus pasture quite dating out back a must-win 20 19 I don't know 01:02:57.490 --> 01:03:01.930 states to these with resolved over than progress or not but one day 01:03:01.930 --> 01:03:05.260 ward members acting up she told the Christmas spreads looked for those 01:03:05.530 --> 01:03:09.430 and decide whether kneecaps Hance on the sprog Africa because if 01:03:09.430 --> 01:03:13.390 that's been resolved or Phil Withall cannot be dealt with them Gosling 01:03:13.390 --> 01:03:18.250 said Moss so can concentrate on her thing to trash the slowness and 01:03:18.250 --> 01:03:21.580 deferred steer with OK I'm 01:03:22.700 --> 01:03:27.560 the tastes next meeting is Monday the first of February so what and 01:03:27.590 --> 01:03:30.500 today's wish everybody a happy Christmas 01:03:31.230 --> 01:03:36.210 are happy New Year as well our seasonal created which has more Croker 01:03:36.540 --> 01:03:42.270 people I'll be all enjoying a break in that close to authors officers 01:03:42.270 --> 01:03:49.020 and anybody's actually with watching this webcast so until then on the 01:03:49.020 --> 01:03:55.320 1st February thank they watch thank you check out an area of the AGS 01:03:55.350 --> 01:03:55.890 earlier 01:03:56.650 --> 01:04:00.310 thank you Councillor St. you thank you 01:04:01.370 --> 01:04:02.090 if you want to know